Comments on: Alan Hirsch http://www.movements.net/2006/02/15/alan-hirsch.html The companion website to the new book by Steve Addison Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:09:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: » New book and a blog from Alan HirschSteve Addison’s blog » World Changers http://www.movements.net/2006/02/15/alan-hirsch.html/comment-page-1#comment-6182 » New book and a blog from Alan HirschSteve Addison’s blog » World Changers Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:15:49 +0000 http://www.steveaddison.net/2006/02/14/alan-hirsch.html#comment-6182 [...] Alan Hirsch has a new book out. From the blurb: Alan Hirsch is convinced that the inherited formulas for growing the Body of Christ do not work anymore. And rather than relying on slightly revised solutions from the past, he sees a vision of the future growth of the church coming about by harnessing the power of the early church, which grew from as few as 25,000 adherents in AD 100 to up to 20 million in AD 310. Such incredible growth is also being experienced today in the church in China and other parts of the world. How do they do it? The Forgotten Ways explores the concept of Apostolic Genius as a way to understand what caused the church to expand at various times in history, interpreting it for use in our own time and place. From the theological underpinnings to the practical application, Hirsch takes the reader through this dynamic mixture of passion, prayer, and incarnational practice to rediscover the dormant potential of the modern church in the West.Alan is finally blogging. You can find him at theforgottenways. [...] [...] Alan Hirsch has a new book out. From the blurb: Alan Hirsch is convinced that the inherited formulas for growing the Body of Christ do not work anymore. And rather than relying on slightly revised solutions from the past, he sees a vision of the future growth of the church coming about by harnessing the power of the early church, which grew from as few as 25,000 adherents in AD 100 to up to 20 million in AD 310. Such incredible growth is also being experienced today in the church in China and other parts of the world. How do they do it? The Forgotten Ways explores the concept of Apostolic Genius as a way to understand what caused the church to expand at various times in history, interpreting it for use in our own time and place. From the theological underpinnings to the practical application, Hirsch takes the reader through this dynamic mixture of passion, prayer, and incarnational practice to rediscover the dormant potential of the modern church in the West.Alan is finally blogging. You can find him at theforgottenways. [...]

]]> By: » What movement leaders must doSteve Addison’s blog » World Changers http://www.movements.net/2006/02/15/alan-hirsch.html/comment-page-1#comment-1511 » What movement leaders must doSteve Addison’s blog » World Changers Thu, 06 Jul 2006 23:31:39 +0000 http://www.steveaddison.net/2006/02/14/alan-hirsch.html#comment-1511 [...] In any movement full of entrepreneurially-spirited misfits, finding the ‘universals’ that apply to us all and giving us clarity for our collective pursuits is no small feat. Interestingly enough, ‘being right’ about every goal or directive isn’t as important as being clear. Goals and directions can always be changed, but confused and scattered followers are a lot harder to re-gather and refocus.Dave, about time you started blogging! Same goes for you Alan Hirsch! [...] [...] In any movement full of entrepreneurially-spirited misfits, finding the ‘universals’ that apply to us all and giving us clarity for our collective pursuits is no small feat. Interestingly enough, ‘being right’ about every goal or directive isn’t as important as being clear. Goals and directions can always be changed, but confused and scattered followers are a lot harder to re-gather and refocus.Dave, about time you started blogging! Same goes for you Alan Hirsch! [...]

]]> By: Jack Yan http://www.movements.net/2006/02/15/alan-hirsch.html/comment-page-1#comment-376 Jack Yan Sat, 18 Feb 2006 20:35:45 +0000 http://www.steveaddison.net/2006/02/14/alan-hirsch.html#comment-376 Great post, Steve. Alan is right on all counts, and I have noticed another disturbing thing on the US coasts, predominantly, but it is becoming true of all the west: the anger and disappointment that come from not having immediate gratification. This extends to not just products, but people. If someone is five minutes late, we expect a cellphone call. Ten years ago, we would have waited the five minutes, happy that we have the time. In those five minutes, perhaps something good or unusual might happen? We were once open to the opportunity. Fragmentation in the west, which is market-driven (in which case it is market over-segmentation), has meant that the great movements are harder to kick off; on the flip side, we have the opportunity to cooperate, through the internet, with people of other cultures who can sustain movements. But it may be likely that many future movements will come from the east. The important thing there is to have dialogue to ensure inclusiveness. Alan is right on the pharasaism being a perception, but this comes from ignorance. All it would take, for instance, is to read blogs from regular people in these other nations to see their views on religion. But it is easier for many in the west to operate out of assumption than contact. Thank you for sharing this, Steve. Great post, Steve. Alan is right on all counts, and I have noticed another disturbing thing on the US coasts, predominantly, but it is becoming true of all the west: the anger and disappointment that come from not having immediate gratification. This extends to not just products, but people. If someone is five minutes late, we expect a cellphone call. Ten years ago, we would have waited the five minutes, happy that we have the time. In those five minutes, perhaps something good or unusual might happen? We were once open to the opportunity.

Fragmentation in the west, which is market-driven (in which case it is market over-segmentation), has meant that the great movements are harder to kick off; on the flip side, we have the opportunity to cooperate, through the internet, with people of other cultures who can sustain movements. But it may be likely that many future movements will come from the east. The important thing there is to have dialogue to ensure inclusiveness.

Alan is right on the pharasaism being a perception, but this comes from ignorance. All it would take, for instance, is to read blogs from regular people in these other nations to see their views on religion. But it is easier for many in the west to operate out of assumption than contact.

Thank you for sharing this, Steve.

]]> By: Subversive Influence » Blog Archive » Mixed Bag of Updates and Other Bits http://www.movements.net/2006/02/15/alan-hirsch.html/comment-page-1#comment-367 Subversive Influence » Blog Archive » Mixed Bag of Updates and Other Bits Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:30:58 +0000 http://www.steveaddison.net/2006/02/14/alan-hirsch.html#comment-367 [...] Steve Addison presents Alan Hirsch commenting on “Why don’t we see dynamic church planting movements in the West of the same magnitude that we are see in many parts of the developing world?” Good stuff. Steve also left a comment on another post here last week pointing to two other related posts he’s done, Seven contrasts and The wisdom of Barney. That’s Barney Rubble…. [...] [...] Steve Addison presents Alan Hirsch commenting on “Why don’t we see dynamic church planting movements in the West of the same magnitude that we are see in many parts of the developing world?” Good stuff. Steve also left a comment on another post here last week pointing to two other related posts he’s done, Seven contrasts and The wisdom of Barney. That’s Barney Rubble…. [...]

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