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	<title>Comments on: Getting the right people on the bus</title>
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		<title>By: mikeb</title>
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		<description>Amen.  So often it seems that people are building things with blocks that have been developed elsewhere.  Obviously that needs to happen and the Lord no doubt re-arranges the pieces on the Board from time to time.  But, if a movement is to happen, there must be a a centripetal (ie. moving out - I think) thing happening - that a church or group is putting out more spiritual fruit than the resources it is consuming.  Sort of makes me think that churches that are effective at growing people are like a spiritual vortex where power from on high flows into people and they are then spun off into other places.  And the end of a movement phase is signalled by the shutting down of the vortex - the group no longer produces more fruit than the resources it consumes.  We&#039;re back then to the zero-sum game - just shifting pieces around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen.  So often it seems that people are building things with blocks that have been developed elsewhere.  Obviously that needs to happen and the Lord no doubt re-arranges the pieces on the Board from time to time.  But, if a movement is to happen, there must be a a centripetal (ie. moving out &#8211; I think) thing happening &#8211; that a church or group is putting out more spiritual fruit than the resources it is consuming.  Sort of makes me think that churches that are effective at growing people are like a spiritual vortex where power from on high flows into people and they are then spun off into other places.  And the end of a movement phase is signalled by the shutting down of the vortex &#8211; the group no longer produces more fruit than the resources it consumes.  We&#8217;re back then to the zero-sum game &#8211; just shifting pieces around.</p>
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