Comments on: Shifting the deck chairs in Newark http://www.movements.net/2006/01/21/shifting-the-deck-chairs.html The companion website to the new book by Steve Addison Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:09:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Babyboomer Unbelief » Steve Addison’s blog » World Changers http://www.movements.net/2006/01/21/shifting-the-deck-chairs.html/comment-page-1#comment-430 Babyboomer Unbelief » Steve Addison’s blog » World Changers Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:03:59 +0000 http://www.steveaddison.net/2006/01/22/shifting-the-deck-chairs.html#comment-430 [...] In Shifting the Deckchairs in Newark and Spong’s legacy I suggested a causal relationship between “secularizing” the Gospel and the decline of the Church in the West. [...] [...] In Shifting the Deckchairs in Newark and Spong’s legacy I suggested a causal relationship between “secularizing” the Gospel and the decline of the Church in the West. [...]

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]]> By: Tony Chimento http://www.movements.net/2006/01/21/shifting-the-deck-chairs.html/comment-page-1#comment-325 Tony Chimento Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:52:16 +0000 http://www.steveaddison.net/2006/01/22/shifting-the-deck-chairs.html#comment-325 I have some inside track into the one of the Episcopal diocese in our state. And it's no secret one of the largest problems the denomination is facing does not find itself in people leaving in my opinion. Rather, I think it is in the potential rift resulting from the varying opinions on pro or anti homosexual appointments to pastoral and denominational government. The way the denomination handles this may indeed cause lots more "chair swapping." Those for will leave if the denomination embraces a true Biblical stance on the appointments. If they do rule against homosexual appointments, then those in favor will leave. If they continue to embrace the appointments, those opposed will eventually leave. And I don't see any way those two stances can coexist inside an organization that houses two sides fighting for identity. I could be wrong, but doesnt it seem like a split is coming and perhaps a birthing of a new organization no matter which way it goes? I am not Episcopalian. However, if I were, I probably would have bailed out as soon as the endorsement for homosexual priests was sanctioned. My contact didnt do the same but decided to nobly hang in there and fight for what he believes. I have mixed emotions about it personally. But the "chair swapping" will no doubt continue. I have some inside track into the one of the Episcopal diocese in our state. And it’s no secret one of the largest problems the denomination is facing does not find itself in people leaving in my opinion. Rather, I think it is in the potential rift resulting from the varying opinions on pro or anti homosexual appointments to pastoral and denominational government.

The way the denomination handles this may indeed cause lots more “chair swapping.” Those for will leave if the denomination embraces a true Biblical stance on the appointments. If they do rule against homosexual appointments, then those in favor will leave. If they continue to embrace the appointments, those opposed will eventually leave. And I don’t see any way those two stances can coexist inside an organization that houses two sides fighting for identity. I could be wrong, but doesnt it seem like a split is coming and perhaps a birthing of a new organization no matter which way it goes?

I am not Episcopalian. However, if I were, I probably would have bailed out as soon as the endorsement for homosexual priests was sanctioned. My contact didnt do the same but decided to nobly hang in there and fight for what he believes. I have mixed emotions about it personally. But the “chair swapping” will no doubt continue.

]]> By: Michael http://www.movements.net/2006/01/21/shifting-the-deck-chairs.html/comment-page-1#comment-322 Michael Wed, 25 Jan 2006 01:17:50 +0000 http://www.steveaddison.net/2006/01/22/shifting-the-deck-chairs.html#comment-322 Well i know quite a few people that will stand there and say to them, "I told you so." while I would not be that harsh you can't help thinking that when your take 'jesus' out of the church your not left with a great deal, well nothing of any value anyway.. Well i know quite a few people that will stand there and say to them, “I told you so.” while I would not be that harsh you can’t help thinking that when your take ‘jesus’ out of the church your not left with a great deal, well nothing of any value anyway..

]]> By: Spong’s legacy » Steve Addison’s blog » World Changers http://www.movements.net/2006/01/21/shifting-the-deck-chairs.html/comment-page-1#comment-310 Spong’s legacy » Steve Addison’s blog » World Changers Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:59:36 +0000 http://www.steveaddison.net/2006/01/22/shifting-the-deck-chairs.html#comment-310 [...] function init(){ if(!document.getElementsByTagName)return;var anchors=document.getElementsByTagName("a") for(var i=0;i Shifting the deck chairs in Newark [...] [...] function init(){ if(!document.getElementsByTagName)return;var anchors=document.getElementsByTagName(“a”) for(var i=0;i Shifting the deck chairs in Newark [...]

]]> By: Alan Hirsch http://www.movements.net/2006/01/21/shifting-the-deck-chairs.html/comment-page-1#comment-309 Alan Hirsch Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:13:57 +0000 http://www.steveaddison.net/2006/01/22/shifting-the-deck-chairs.html#comment-309 Hey Steve, there is a roaring discussion on this blog taking place on sineposts. See http://www.signposts.org.au/index.php/archives/2006/01/21/spong-and-the-decline-of-the-western-church/ Hey Steve, there is a roaring discussion on this blog taking place on sineposts. See http://www.signposts.org.au/index.php/archives/2006/01/21/spong-and-the-decline-of-the-western-church/

]]> By: Andrew M http://www.movements.net/2006/01/21/shifting-the-deck-chairs.html/comment-page-1#comment-308 Andrew M Sun, 22 Jan 2006 05:00:13 +0000 http://www.steveaddison.net/2006/01/22/shifting-the-deck-chairs.html#comment-308 Thanks Steve. I find it fascinating that one of the hallmarks of Spong's Diocese is that the people don't share their faith! While I disagree with almost all (in fact I'm actually trying to think of one I actually agree with) of the things that come out of Spong you couldn't accuse him of not sharing his brand of faith! He must be disappointed with his flock! Thanks Steve. I find it fascinating that one of the hallmarks of Spong’s Diocese is that the people don’t share their faith! While I disagree with almost all (in fact I’m actually trying to think of one I actually agree with) of the things that come out of Spong you couldn’t accuse him of not sharing his brand of faith! He must be disappointed with his flock!

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